Q9: Names of hotels in Kyoto (Japan) that are near the train station?


  1. Place: Dublin, Ireland
    Date: June 11th 1998
    Time: 3:00pm (local time)
    
    Started search using Fusion
    
    Query: Kyoto train station hotels
    
    Clicked on #2 "ICSE98 local information"
    
        Followed links to Kyoto City Tourism Information
        http://raku.city.kyoto.jp/sight_eng.shtml
     
        Clicked on Accommodation -> hotels, Inns
        Searched by place -> Around Kyoto Station, Tojo
        Got large list of hotels: Hotel Iida, Hotel Rich Kyoto etc.
    

  2. Place: Aberdeen, Scotland
    Date:  12. June 1998
    Time: 2:30PM (local time)
    
    searched for Japan hotels in Kyoto- only 3 given.
    2 didn't state whether or not they were near the station
    the other had a url that could not be accessed.
    

  3. Iowa City, Iowa, USA
    8 hours for 10 queries over 2 afternoons
    
            o Submit the query: +Kyoto +station + hotel
            o The first two links are lists of hotels in Kyoto and how close
              they are to the Kyoto Station.
            o Click on the first link:
              http://traveland.hotelbook.com/static/Asia,Japan,Kyoto.html
            o The list is shown to you.
            o The second link seems to be a mirror site
              (http://www.hotelbook.com/static/Asia,Japan,Kyoto.html).
         Note about this search. I meant to write as a query "+Kyoto +train
         +station + hotel "  but accidentally I did not include the second word.
         I noticed it when I wrote this comments, then I try that query but
         (surprise, surprise!) the links I found previously didn't show up in
         the first page. They were the hits 17 and 18 (in the second page).
    

  4. Tokyo, Japan
    June 12nd, 1998 Local time
    By default, search on Altavista
    
       6:30 pm
       (I live in Japan and I known the site !!)
    
       Query : kyoto city tourism
    
       clicked on 2 :
                                   2. Kyoto City Tourism & Culture
    Infomation System
                                         [URL:raku.city.kyoto.jp/sight_apr.html]
                                   next page
                                   accomodation
                                   hotels, inns
                                   search by place
                                   around Kyoto station, toji
    
       Result :
       - Buzennya Ryokan
       - Daishokan
       - Daiya Ryokan
       - Hatoya Zuihokaku
       - Heianbo
       - Hifumi Ryokan
       - etc.
    
    

  5. Ottawa, Canada
    
    (2:38): - learned from previous question - go to
    http://citynet.excite.com/countries/ and browse on to Japan - Kyoto
    (2:41): browse to 'maps' to locate the train station, but that seems not
    to be a good idea (instead of finding a Kyoto map, I'm back on global
    level).
    (2:42): to Fodor's hotel index
    http://www.fodors.com/ir.cgi?dest=Kyoto@33&2=name
    Lists 23 hotels and I guess I can try all of them and see if they
    mention the train station. Postpone that strategy for now.
    (2:45): Alta Vista query -> +kyoto hotel "train station"
    Only on position 24 I find a promising link:
    http://www.hotelbook.com/static/Asia,Japan,Kyoto.html
    and which lists the Nikko Princess Hotel and Rihga Royal Hotel as
    'nearby' Kyoto station, the New Miyako Hotel as opposite the bullet
    train station, the Kyoto Tokyu Hotel is 3 km from the train station, the
    ANA Hotel Kyoto is 10 minutes from the station (not really near,
    anymore). No mention of the station at the other two hotels (2:54).
    Consider this an answer to the question and close the case (2:56).
    

  6. Using a custom front-end tool AltaGCL
    Waterloo, 15 June 18:15
    
       altagcl "kyoto" and "hotel*" and "train" ... way too much junk
       altagcl  ("kyoto hotels" or "hotels in kyoto") and ("train" or "station") 
                ... perfect!
    
       http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/SEG/travelrates/station_kyoto.html
    
    Total time: 5 minutes
    

  7. Waterloo, Canada
    Using a custom front-end tool AltaGCL
    June 16, 01:08am
    
        query: "kyoto" and "hotel" and "train station"
    
        Initially found 2 hotels that give proximity to the train station
        on their web pages:
           URL : http://www.hotelbook.com/static/Asia,Japan,Kyoto.html
           URL : http://www.traveler.net/htio/ohgreviews/e218835.html
    
        Suspected that there were more hotels so decided to keep searching.
        
        query: "Kyoto" and "hotel*" and "train.station" and "list*"
    
           URL : http://traveland.hotelbook.com/static/Asia,Japan,Kyoto.html
    
        which is a listing of hotels in kyoto with proximity to train station.
    
        time: 5 minutes
    

  8. Using Fusion2 - a
    metasearch engine with marking of relevant documents and query
    expansion.
    
    Fusion2 search for hotel kyoto gives 38 URLs
    
    rank=1 is www.kyotohotel.co.jp, kyoto horel but no location
    rank=2 is karasuama kyoto hotel but no location
    rank=7 is Ana hotel Kyoto which is 10 minutes taxi from JR Kyoto Station,
    so now we know what it is called.
    
    Fusion2 query for hotel kyoto train station
    
    rank=8 is kyoto station building at www.travelassist.com which is
    about the train station building including details of the hotel 
    within the station, the Granvia Kyoto hotel and a hot link to the 
    home page for the hotel with its 539 rooms ... can't get much 
    closer than that.  But the query asked for hotelS, so at rank=9
    is a page describing kyoto with a link to a hotel map which has 
    5 hotels near the station including the Miyako, Karasumai, and so on.
    
    Bingo in 7 minutes.
    

  9. At a university in Glasgow, Scotland
    
    search "Kyoto hotels" with Yahoo (8 results)
    gone to http://www.interamerika.com/KyotoTokyuHotel.htm :Kyoto Tokyu Hotel
    - deluxe hotel of the highest international standard, desirably located in
    the centre of Kyoto facing the Nishi-Honganji Shrine.
    gone  to http://www.kyotohotel.co.jp: Kyoto Hotel - has all western-style
    suites, event facilites, and many restaurants, including ones on the 17th
    floor that afford panoramic views of the city.
    link to location:
    http://www.kyotohotel.co.jp/oike/loca_e.html but form the map it is not
    clear how far it is form the station, but  Karasuma Kyoto Hotel looks
    promising
    http://www.kyotohotel.co.jp/karasuma/index.html
    link to location:
     , not clear how far it is
    from station, quite close thought.
    
    still we wanted more choice:
    
    Altavista: with the same query
    http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/SEG/travelrates/hotel_kyoto.html#Area Menu
    link to  Kyoto Station
    http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/SEG/travelrates/station_kyoto.html
    Eureka!!!
    
    Answer
    
      Kyoto Station Area
    
    
        Hotel			Rates		 		Comments
    
    Kyoto Grand Hotel	Deluxe(from  Бе22,000/night)	 ... near Kyoto
    Station.
    
    Kyoto Park Hotel	 	Deluxe(from  Бе22,000/night) 	near the
    Kyoto National Mus.
    
    Kyoto Tokyu Hotel	First Class (from  Бе15,000/night)	near all
    cultural and historical sites.
    
    New Hankyu Hotel	First Class (from  Бе15,000/night)      Near Kyoto
    Station.
    
    New Miyako Hotel	First Class  (from  Бе15,000/night)	 Near Kyoto
    Station.
    
    Nikko Prince  Kyoto	First Class   (from  Бе15,000/night)	 Newly
    built hotel.
    
    

  10. Novice WWW searcher!
    Date:	June 17, 1998
    Time:	9:19 am (local time)
    Place: 	San Diego, CA
    
    Query:	Kyoto
    Clicked on "Japan travel updates: Kyoto"
    Clicked on "Kyoto links"
    Clicked on "Kyoto Visitor's guide"
    	No helpful information found, redo search
    
    Query:	Kyoto train station
    Clicked multiple sites, before finally choosing "Hotels and Travel in
    Japan"
    Clicked on "local hotel directories and web sites"
    Tried each of 5 hotels listed under "city - Kyoto"
    	One was located in Tokyo, three had addresses that the browser couldn't
    locate.
    Clicked on "Hankyu"
    	Located the Hotel New Hankyu Kyoto, located 2 minutes from the railroad
    station (on foot).
    	Decided to book my reservations there, regardless of my budget, when I
    finally found this information at 9:49 am (local time).
    

  11. Australia
    Using a query re-formulation tool, the Hyperindex Browser (HiB)
    
            HiB + AltaVista
    
            o enter "Kyoto" and many query refinements are produced
            o choose "kyoto hotel" which produces the refinement "kyoto hotel
              overview". Beam down using this and start perusing the document
              abstracts. Quite a few seem relevant - start following links to
              actual documents and from there to other documnents - lost in
              hyperspace
            o start the HiB again with the query "kyoto" and chose the refinement
              "kyoto guide" as a query. Some document abstracts look relevant, but
               no success
            o try again using the query refinement "kyoto" hotel which produces
              the names of several hotels in Kyoto e.g. "kyoto tokyu hotel".
              Decide to beam down to the associated documents
              to see if mention is made of the hotel being near the station.
              beam down using "kyoto tokyu hotel", which leads to the document
    
              http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/SEG/travelrates/station_kyoto.html
    
              where it says that "Kyoto Grand Central Hotel", "New Hankyu Hotel"
    	  and "New Mikyako Hotel" are near the station.
    

  12. At a university in Toronto, Canada
    
      Metacrawler query: kyoto hotels
    
      Clicking on #1: "KYOTO CONVENTION BUREAU HOME PAGE"
        (http://web.kyoto-inet.or.jp/org/hellokcb/)
    
        Clicking on "Hotels"
    
          A list of Hotels.
    
    	Clicking on "KYOTO TAKARAGAIKE PRINCE HOTEL"
    
    	  30 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "THE MIYAKO"
    
    	  20 min.by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "KYOTO HOTEL"
    
    	  Clicking on "KYOTO HOTEL"
    
    	    Clicking on "Location & Access"
    
    	      Includes a map showning Kyoto Station and the locations of the
    	      two Kyoto Hotel group hotels.  The closest is the Karasuma Kyoto
    	      Hotel which is two blocks away.  The Kyoto Hotel is about six
    	      blocks away.
    
    	Clicking on "ANA HOTEL KYOTO"
    
    	  10 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "RIHGA ROYAL HOTEL KYOTO
    
    	  7 min. walk from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "KYOTO TOKYU HOTEL"
    
    	  5 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "KYOTO ROYAL HOTEL"
    
    	  10 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "KYOTO BRIGHTON HOTEL"
    
    	  15 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "KYOTO PARK HOTEL"
    
    	  5 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "KARASUMA KYOTO HOTEL"
    
    	  5 min. by subway from JR Kyoto Stn.
    	  (About two blocks.  See above.)
    
    	Clicking on "HOLIDAY INN KYOTO"
    
    	  20 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "HOTEL KEIHAN KYOTO"
    
    	  1 min. walk from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "NEW MIYAKO HOTEL"
    
    	  1 min. walk from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "HOTEL GIMMOND"
    
    	  10 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "HOTEL NEW KYOTO"
    
    	  10 min.by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "HOTEL new HANKYU KYOTO"
    
    	  3 min. walk from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "KYOTO TOWER HOTEL"
    
    	  1 min. walk from JR Kyoto Stn. 
    
    	Clicking on "HOTEL PALACE-SIDE KYOTO"
    
    	  10 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "HOTEL NIKKO PRINCESS KYOTO"
    
    	  5 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "SANJO KARASUMA KYOTO"
    
    	  5 min. by subway from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "HOTEL SUN ROUTE KYOTO"
    
    	  7 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "KYOTO PRINCE HOTEL"
    
    	  15 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "MARUKO INN KYOTO"
    
    	  10 min. by subway from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
    	Clicking on "KYOTO GION HOTEL"
    
    	  10 min. by taxi from JR Kyoto Stn.
    
      The closest hotels are
        HOTEL KEIHAN KYOTO
        NEW MIYAKO HOTEL
        KYOTO TOWER HOTEL
      which are a one minute walk from the train station and also
        HOTEL new HANKYU KYOTO
      which is a three minute walk from the train station.
    

  13. At another university in Glasgow, Scotland
    
    Started search on Altavista to go
    straight to the query:
        Query: +hotel +Kyoto Japan train +station
    
    Visited http://www.jnto.go.jp/04budhint/hints/transp/kyotobus/kyotra.html ,
    1st in the list. The page is a train timetable (odd we retrieved it), but
    at the bottom there is a useful address:
    Visited http://www.jnto.go.jp/ where there is a lot of information and in
    particular an indication regarding lots of Japanese cities
    Visited http://www.jnto.go.jp/05regional/kyoto/05frame.html with info about
    Kyoto. Unfortunately, no info about hotels are in easy reach.
    Back to Altavista
    
    Visited http://www.zem.co.uk/itc/JAPAN.htm , 5th in the list, where I find
    the name of one hotel near the train station. NEW MIYAKO HOTEL,
    HACHIJO-GUCHI, KYOTO STATION, KYOTO TOWN.
    
    I decide to try another search engine to see if it has different coverage.
    I try http://www.infoseek.com/ with:
        Query: hotel Kyoto train station
    
    I click on the Grouped results from http://web.kyoto-inet.or.jp and I get a
    nice list where all the hotels in the first 5 hotels are close to train
    station. I decide to visit one
    Visited http://web.kyoto-inet.or.jp/org/hellokcb/eng/ht5.html and then
    using the back botton I go the full list of hotels in Kyoto that seem to be
    close to the train station
    http://web.kyoto-inet.or.jp/org/hellokcb/eng/hotelindex.html
    

  14. Elsewhere in Ottawa, Canada, using AltaVista ...
    
    ANSWER:		ANA Hotel Kyoto	Kyoto Station - 10 minutes                      
                 Kyoto Tokyu Hotel	Kyoto Train Station - 3 km                                         
                 New Miyako Hotel 	Kyoto Station - front of hotel
                 Nikko Princess Hotel Kyoto Kyoto Station - nearby                          
                 Rihga Royal Hotel	Kyoto Station - nearby
    
    		Not exhaustive
    Queries:	2
    Links:		9
    		
    Time:		15 minutes
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Query: 	hotel Kyoto Japan train accommodation*
    
    Followed: http://www.jwindow.net/LWT/KYOTO/GUIDE/kyoto_guide_accommod.html
    	Just gives the cost ranges
    
    Followed: http://www.jnto.go.jp/04budhint/hints/transp/kyotobus/kyotra.html
    	-> http://www.jnto.go.jp/
    	-> http://www.jnto.go.jp/07hotels/07frame.html
    	-> http://www.j-hotel.or.jp/english/index.html
    	-> Fill in form for Kyoto
    		http://okini6.o-kini.or.jp:9004/jhotel/owa/search.easysearch_e
    
    Hotel list: with links and phone numbers
    	NEW MIYAKO HOTEL
    	KYOTO CENTURY HOTEL
    	KYOTO DAINI TOWER HOTEL
    	KYOTO BRIGHTON HOTEL
    	THE MIYAKO
    	HOTEL GIMMOND KYOTO 
    	HOTEL NEW KYOTO
    	HOTEL SUNFLOWER KYOTO
    	 KYOTO DAIGO PLAZA HOTEL
    	HOLIDAY INN KYOTO
    	KYOTO PARK HOTEL
    	HOTEL KEIHAN KYOTO
    	KYOTO TOWER HOTEL
    	RIHGA ROYAL HOTEL KYOTO
    	ANA HOTEL KYOTO
    	KYOTO HOTEL
    	HOTEL NEW HANKYU KYOTO
    	KYOTO TOKYU HOTEL
    	KYOTO ROYAL HOTEL
    	HOTEL PALACE-SIDE KYOTO 
    
    
    Followed: http://www.jnto.go.jp/
    	-> http://www.jnto.go.jp/04budhint/04frame.html
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Query: 	+hotel Kyoto Japan +train accommodation*
    Followed: http://traveland.hotelbook.com/static/Asia,Japan,Kyoto.html
    
    
                 ANA Hotel Kyoto	Kyoto Station - 10 minutes                      
                 Kyoto Tokyu Hotel	Kyoto Train Station - 3 km                                         
                 New Miyako Hotel 	Kyoto Station - front of hotel
                 Nikko Princess Hotel Kyoto Kyoto Station - nearby                          
                 Rihga Royal Hotel	Kyoto Station - nearby
    

  15. France
    
    Metacrawler: kyoto hotel "near train station"
    --> 3 results
    Pages refer gay information in asia.
    
    Metacrawler: kyoto train station
    --> many results
    Nothing promising.  I pick "Japan Travel Updates: Kyoto"
    http://www.jnto.go.jp/05regional/kyoto/Kita_Kyoto.html 
    I surf a while on the national tourist server. No luck.
    --> Another result: Kyoto Station Building 
    http://www.westjr.co.jp/english/kyoto/index.html
    Some information on the new station building, which also contains a
    hotel: HOTEL GRANVIA KYOTO
    I assume that if there is a list somewhere then the GRANVIA should be
    on it. I try:
    Metacrawler: granvia kyoto station
    --> 5 results
    I follow 
    http://www.intrepidtraveler.com/travels/kyoto.html 
    A general tourist info on Kyoto, but only a listing of few hotel and
    no indications to their distance from the train station.
    
    I give up.
    
    (20 minutes)
    

  16. Saarbrucken, Germany 
    22 June 1998, 19:20-21:20 p.m.
    
    I look up my private page with hotels where I've stayed
    (http://www.coli.uni-sb.de/~erbach/hotel.html) and find the Ryokan
    Seiki just behind the train station.
    
    

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